Mrs. Alving, and especially Oswald, complain about the gloom that surrounds them. Because many of their problems center around maintaining public reputations, their real lives seem cloaked in darkness, and the public world itself seems to be one of darkness, where appearances are kept up while men commit gross hypocrisies, as evident in the character of Engstrand Over the course of the play, light sometimes acts as a potential antidote to this gloominess. Oswald refers to sunny Italy, where he could feel "the joy of life." Mrs. Alving has a lamp lit, ostensibly to comfort Oswald, although it does little good. When the fire erupts in the orphanage, the memorial to Captain Alving's reputation is literally destroyed, so this light serves to destroy some shadows, although it is in no way constructive, as it only leads to further confusion, with Engstrand blackmailing the Pastor. Finally, the sun rises just after Oswald and Mrs. Alving have learned the full truth of their conditions from one another, and, with the sunlight, Oswald goes mad.