Doctor Who Chat: Addison & Ryan Clash Over Sandmen!
This week, Doctor Who fan-favorite Mark Gatiss (Mycroft on Sherlock!) returned to pen a one-off episode of Doctor Who. Feeling like The Blair Witch Project in space, the change in format was jarring to say the least. And for the first time, our Doctor Who chatters—Addison & Ryan—totally disagreed about the episode! Read on to find out what happened when Addison and Ryan faced the terror of The Sandmen!
Could you excuse me while I go cry in a corner
I DID NOT LIKE THIS EPISODE AT ALL
I have to reveal to you
I saw this episode
with Mark Gatiss
An hour after I talked with him
So, I was going in with THAT!
(for everyone: Mark Gatiss wrote this episode and also plays Mycroft Holmes in Sherlock)
Why would he write such a terrible episode?
All his other ones have been so good
we totally disagree
I thought it was quite brilliant
(You watched it with Mark Gatiss sjgasjgansg)
Here's the thing: maybe I can try to guess why you didn't like it?
Is that a fun game?
it might bring back bad memories
but go ahead
For one thing
I BET you didn't like that the Doctor lost at the end
I ALSO bet you think the whole episode was a fake-out?
And so it doesn't make any sense?
And that the monsters were dumb
AM I CLOSE? :)
But those are good attempts
This is amazing
We've need this
a true schism!
but honestly, I would love to agree with you because I don't like disliking Doctor Who episodes
it's still a Doctor Who episode
so, I'm not sure it's a total waste of time
even if you didn't like it. :)
I enjoyed every minute of it
but I didn't like it
K. Break it down for me
and I'm sure this makes perfect sense
THERE WAS NO OPENING THEME
or was I imagining it not being there
the whole footage thing didn't do it for me
The Doctor Who letters were in that screen
it was fun at first
that's the whole premise
From what Gatiss said, he really wanted it to be like Blair Witch Project
that whole medium kind of is the story
Oh, I love the story
and the fact that it's so different than any Doctor Who episode ever
it was so clever and the sandmen (although some may think were boring) were actually pretty good
I feel like it would've been better as a two-parter
I think it might be
I think these creatures are going to show up again
Perhaps just not a one and then two part thing though
Perhaps later this season
Maybe even NEXT WEEK
They're being tricky with this
If they do this, then Toby Whithouse and Mark Gatiss should work together
Toby has a flair for horror
and Mark writes a classic time travel mystery
I think it's kind of like the ganger-plot line from season 6
Like that story is self contained
but it connects to what's going on with Amy Pond
I think this is setting up a creature/threat, some characters
that might pop up later
we don't really know when this adventure takes place for Clara and the Doctor
in context with everything else
the anxiety of Clara leaving
I felt it the most this episode
Yeah. I think she was very funny in this one
Everyone in the theatre started cracking up when she and the Doctor were bickering
I thought that was awesome
So many funny bits
I think Capaldi did great with the playing to the camera thing
Capaldi was SO GREAT
I think the casting was fantastic
the science fiction premise
It was such a great dig at the increasingly long work days
and corporations making that worse
I think I maybe would have preferred it to be shot a little more traditionally, but, it's a classic Doctor Who idea
here's a question
Because you basically didn't like this one because of the aesthetic framing mechanism
in your opinion
how important is the music to Doctor Who?
Not just the opening music
but the incidental music
it depends on the setting
now that I think about it
this didn't really need a score, if you will
because this is what the First Doctor's adventures were like
and the Classic series basically had no music
but I mean
this current version
The Murray Gold music
is such a big part of it
he's composed different themes for each Doctor
(not counting different arrangements of the title theme)
each sets of characters gets their own theme
from Rose onward
Like the music of Doctor Who has been telling its own story
and then boom
this one ditches it
Twelve doesn't have it
They lean on it very heavily
Check out the season 8 soundtrack!
was it used in series 9?
Matt's was "I Am the Doctor"
I know it was in series 8
which was later rearranged
to the Majestic Tale of the Mad Man With a Box (or something like that)
as "The Majestic Tale (Of A Madman and His Box)"
and then the Sad Man With a Box
which "Day of the Doctor" used a lot
12's is "The Majestic Tale (Of An Idiot With His Box)
For Peter Capaldi it's "A Good Man?"
which is used in the scene where Capaldi has the flashback to Tennant
a few weeks ago
I love how it's slightly in sync with Clara's theme
they've got it all over the place
they only used the last bit
Nope. They use all of it all the time
It was introduced last season
it's a little more subtle
than the stuff for 11
but it's really good
for them to ditch the music this time
I think was jarring
*struggles to get out of rock*
because the music is telling its own story
Murray Gold is really, really good
they could've had his theme playing
but I wouldn't really die inside because it didn't
if that makes sense
but this was really odd for NuWho
even more so with the change with using footage
if you had to pick three things you could like about it
what would they be?
-"Space Restaurant" "Space Champagne"
that part cracked me up
maybe it's his Scottish accent
or the fact that he's just the Doctor
-it. was. scary. After the Snowmen I was slightly apprehensive of the Sandmen, but this wasn't half bad!
-not necessarily related to the episode, but I'm really happy that the Judoon are gonna reappear in the next episode but sad at the same time because I won't get to hear David Tennant say, "Judoon platoon upon the moon"
Well you never know
I mean maybe Captain Jack will show up and say it
I really liked this one!
My top 3 are:
1. the TWIST that there were no actual cameras
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT
2. the idea of morpheus
really great sci-fi premise
so much social commentary
like an elegant thing
Mark Gatiss said that the song "Mr. Sandman"
because he finds it so creepy
3. It was DIFFERENT
which shocked me
and I thought was really great
I don't want all my Doctor Who like this
but I think it's awesome when writers can take chances with a format
it's hard to imagine this taking place on an American show
I love stories about the Doctor
from another angle
I mean, with Whovians it's more the fact that a lot of us don't like change
but then we do
what would your reaction be if you saw this as a child?
I would be so scared
I would never want to watch Doctor Who again
(but then again, I hid behind the couch when I saw The Empire Strikes Back for the first time)
that made me laugh more than it should have
I would've been really scared too
what's our stance on Doctor Who being kid-friendly?
I mean it is
that's like a straight up story from "Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark"
Doctor Who is supposed to scare children
Because the Doctor, you know, fights the monsters
that's what's so cool about it all
and the Doctor fighting the Sandmen makes up for most nightmares had as a child
But! Let's maybe do thoughts for next week?
I don't want to sound repetitive
but JACK HARKNESS :D
other than that
I'm really excited to see Maisie Williams come back
I love all of this wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
It's almost like
the ghosts of christmas past, present and future
all the time
that's what I love about it!
I think its great that the kid from "Flatline" is back
I'm into that
I loved Rigsy
Well. I'm still really into this season!
Until next time?