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Doctor Who Chat: Addison & Ryan Clash Over Sandmen!

Doctor Who Chat: Addison & Ryan Clash Over Sandmen!

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This week, Doctor Who fan-favorite Mark Gatiss (Mycroft on Sherlock!) returned to pen a one-off episode of Doctor Who. Feeling like The Blair Witch Project in space, the change in format was jarring to say the least. And for the first time, our Doctor Who chatters—Addison & Ryan—totally disagreed about the episode! Read on to find out what happened when Addison and Ryan faced the terror of The Sandmen!

Ryan Britt

Hello hello?

Addison

'allo 'allo

Ryan Britt

Hi!!!

Addison

Could you excuse me while I go cry in a corner

Ryan Britt

Ha

Addison

I DID NOT LIKE THIS EPISODE AT ALL
AT ALL
AT. ALL.

Ryan Britt

Really!
Now
I have to reveal to you
I saw this episode
with Mark Gatiss
An hour after I talked with him
So, I was going in with THAT!
(for everyone: Mark Gatiss wrote this episode and also plays Mycroft Holmes in Sherlock)

Addison

Why would he write such a terrible episode?

Ryan Britt

Ha

Addison

All his other ones have been so good

Ryan Britt

Well
we totally disagree
I thought it was quite brilliant

Addison

WHATTTT
(You watched it with Mark Gatiss sjgasjgansg)

Ryan Britt

Here's the thing: maybe I can try to guess why you didn't like it?
Is that a fun game?

Addison

Maybe
it might bring back bad memories
but go ahead

Ryan Britt

Okay.
For one thing
I BET you didn't like that the Doctor lost at the end
I ALSO bet you think the whole episode was a fake-out?
And so it doesn't make any sense?
And that the monsters were dumb
AM I CLOSE? :)

Addison

NOPE
But those are good attempts

Ryan Britt

This is amazing
We've need this
a true schism!

Addison

I KNOW
but honestly, I would love to agree with you because I don't like disliking Doctor Who episodes

Ryan Britt

Well.
I mean
it's still a Doctor Who episode
so, I'm not sure it's a total waste of time
even if you didn't like it. :)

Addison

OBVI
I enjoyed every minute of it
but I didn't like it

Ryan Britt

K. Break it down for me

Addison

and I'm sure this makes perfect sense
THERE WAS NO OPENING THEME
or was I imagining it not being there
the whole footage thing didn't do it for me

Ryan Britt

The Doctor Who letters were in that screen
yeah
I mean

Addison

it was fun at first

Ryan Britt

that's the whole premise
From what Gatiss said, he really wanted it to be like Blair Witch Project
that whole medium kind of is the story

Addison

Oh, I love the story
and the fact that it's so different than any Doctor Who episode ever
it was so clever and the sandmen (although some may think were boring) were actually pretty good
BUT
I feel like it would've been better as a two-parter

Ryan Britt

Well
I think it might be
I think these creatures are going to show up again
Perhaps just not a one and then two part thing though
Perhaps later this season
Maybe even NEXT WEEK
I mean
who knows
They're being tricky with this

Addison

If they do this, then Toby Whithouse and Mark Gatiss should work together
Toby has a flair for horror
and Mark writes a classic time travel mystery

Ryan Britt

I think it's kind of like the ganger-plot line from season 6
Like that story is self contained
but it connects to what's going on with Amy Pond
I think this is setting up a creature/threat, some characters
that might pop up later
Plus
we don't really know when this adventure takes place for Clara and the Doctor
in context with everything else

Addison

Oh god
the anxiety of Clara leaving
I felt it the most this episode

Ryan Britt

Yeah. I think she was very funny in this one
Everyone in the theatre started cracking up when she and the Doctor were bickering
"SPACE pirates"
I thought that was awesome
So many funny bits
AND
I think Capaldi did great with the playing to the camera thing

Addison

Oh God
Capaldi was SO GREAT
everyone
including Reece

Ryan Britt

Yep
I think the casting was fantastic
And
you know
the science fiction premise
was awesome
It was such a great dig at the increasingly long work days
and corporations making that worse
I think I maybe would have preferred it to be shot a little more traditionally, but, it's a classic Doctor Who idea
really neat

Addison

YES

Ryan Britt

So
here's a question
Because you basically didn't like this one because of the aesthetic framing mechanism
in your opinion
how important is the music to Doctor Who?
Not just the opening music
but the incidental music

Addison

Well
it depends on the setting
now that I think about it
this didn't really need a score, if you will
because this is what the First Doctor's adventures were like
and the Classic series basically had no music

Ryan Britt

Sure
but I mean
this current version
The Murray Gold music
is such a big part of it
he's composed different themes for each Doctor

Addison

Right

Ryan Britt

(not counting different arrangements of the title theme)
each sets of characters gets their own theme
from Rose onward
Like the music of Doctor Who has been telling its own story
and then boom

Addison

YES

Ryan Britt

this one ditches it

Addison

Twelve doesn't have it

Ryan Britt

Not true!
They lean on it very heavily
Check out the season 8 soundtrack!

Addison

was it used in series 9?

Ryan Britt

Yes!

Addison

REALLY

Ryan Britt

Matt's was "I Am the Doctor"

Addison

I know it was in series 8
yeah

Ryan Britt

which was later rearranged

Addison

to the Majestic Tale of the Mad Man With a Box (or something like that)

Ryan Britt

as "The Majestic Tale (Of A Madman and His Box)"

Addison

and then the Sad Man With a Box
yes

Ryan Britt

which "Day of the Doctor" used a lot
12's is "The Majestic Tale (Of An Idiot With His Box)

Addison

For Peter Capaldi it's "A Good Man?"

Ryan Britt

That's right

Addison

YES
ooh ooh

Ryan Britt

which is used in the scene where Capaldi has the flashback to Tennant
a few weeks ago

Addison

I love how it's slightly in sync with Clara's theme
OHHH
see

Ryan Britt

they've got it all over the place

Addison

they only used the last bit

Ryan Britt

Nope. They use all of it all the time
It was introduced last season
it's a little more subtle
than the stuff for 11
but it's really good
SO
for them to ditch the music this time
I think was jarring

Addison

*struggles to get out of rock*

Ryan Britt

because the music is telling its own story
Murray Gold is really, really good

Addison

they could've had his theme playing
but I wouldn't really die inside because it didn't
if that makes sense
but this was really odd for NuWho
even more so with the change with using footage

Ryan Britt

Yeah.
Okay
if you had to pick three things you could like about it
what would they be?

Addison

-"Space Restaurant" "Space Champagne"
that part cracked me up
maybe it's his Scottish accent
or the fact that he's just the Doctor
-it. was. scary. After the Snowmen I was slightly apprehensive of the Sandmen, but this wasn't half bad!

Ryan Britt

ha!

Addison

-not necessarily related to the episode, but I'm really happy that the Judoon are gonna reappear in the next episode but sad at the same time because I won't get to hear David Tennant say, "Judoon platoon upon the moon"

Ryan Britt

ha
Well you never know
I mean maybe Captain Jack will show up and say it
(had to)
Okay
I really liked this one!
My top 3 are:
1. the TWIST that there were no actual cameras
so scary

Addison

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT

Ryan Britt

2. the idea of morpheus
really great sci-fi premise
so much social commentary
brillant
and simple
like an elegant thing
Mark Gatiss said that the song "Mr. Sandman"
was essential
because he finds it so creepy
3. It was DIFFERENT
which shocked me
and I thought was really great
I don't want all my Doctor Who like this
but I think it's awesome when writers can take chances with a format
it's hard to imagine this taking place on an American show
plus
I love stories about the Doctor
from another angle

Addison

YES
I mean, with Whovians it's more the fact that a lot of us don't like change
but then we do

Ryan Britt

ha!
Yep

Addison

what would your reaction be if you saw this as a child?

Ryan Britt

Ha
hate
I would be so scared
terrified
I would never want to watch Doctor Who again
(but then again, I hid behind the couch when I saw The Empire Strikes Back for the first time)

Addison

Bahahahaha
that made me laugh more than it should have
but seriously
I would've been really scared too
what's our stance on Doctor Who being kid-friendly?

Ryan Britt

I mean it is
that's like a straight up story from "Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark"
it's perfect
Doctor Who is supposed to scare children
Because the Doctor, you know, fights the monsters
that's what's so cool about it all

Addison

and the Doctor fighting the Sandmen makes up for most nightmares had as a child

Ryan Britt

But! Let's maybe do thoughts for next week?
Hopes?
That's right
EXACTLY

Addison

I don't want to sound repetitive
but JACK HARKNESS :D
other than that
I'm really excited to see Maisie Williams come back
I love all of this wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
It's almost like
the ghosts of christmas past, present and future
all the time

Ryan Britt

that's what I love about it!
I think its great that the kid from "Flatline" is back
Rigsby?
He's cool
I'm into that

Addison

I loved Rigsy
ha
remember
"The Doctor…"
"...of lies"

Ryan Britt

ha!
Well. I'm still really into this season!
Until next time?

Addison

GERONIMO

Ryan Britt

GALLIFREY STANDS

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