{"id":1385278,"date":"2016-02-02T14:00:21","date_gmt":"2016-02-02T19:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/community.sparknotes.com\/?p=1385278"},"modified":"2016-02-01T15:57:25","modified_gmt":"2016-02-01T20:57:25","slug":"i-interviewed-a-harry-potter-scholar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/blog\/i-interviewed-a-harry-potter-scholar\/","title":{"rendered":"I Interviewed a <i>Harry Potter<\/i> Scholar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/img.sparknotes.com\/content\/sparklife\/sparktalk\/10658584_10152897588304313_6768828853628071203_o_opt_LargeWide.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"701\" height=\"394\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I recently Skyped with Peter Appelbaum, a professor of curriculum studies at Arcadia University, the father of our very own <a href=\"http:\/\/community.sparknotes.com\/blog\/contributor\/noah-appelbaum\" target=\"_blank\">Noah Appelbaum<\/a>, the author of a number of books on education, and\u2014drumroll\u2014a prominent figure in the world of \u00a0<em>Harry Potter \u00a0<\/em>scholarship. This means that his &#8220;work&#8221; includes \u00a0reading, re-reading, thinking, talking, and writing \u00a0about<em> Harry Potter<\/em>. Yup, he&#8217;s living the dream. Read on for a peek into what his world:<\/p>\n<p><strong>On how he fell into \u00a0<em>Harry Potter \u00a0<\/em>scholarship:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When the first book was written, I was surprised how popular it was because I didn&#8217;t get it. I didn&#8217;t think \u00a0it was a very good book. But, more importantly, I was surprised because it seemed to be a plagiarism of another book by a very famous children&#8217;s author named Jane Yolen. Yolen wrote a book called \u00a0<em>Wizard&#8217;s Hall<\/em> about this little boy, who gets this note saying, &#8220;You don&#8217;t know this, but you&#8217;re a wizard \u00a0and you should come to school now.&#8221; So he \u00a0goes to a school called Wizard Hall, where there&#8217;s an evil wizard trying to destroy not just the school but the whole world and this boy helps save the world by defeating the \u00a0evil wizard. Then a year or two later, this <em>Harry Potter<\/em> book came out, which, to me, seemed like the same book.<\/p>\n<p>I was trying to figure out what distinguished the first <em>HP<\/em> book \u00a0from Yolen&#8217;s \u00a0book and \u00a0I noticed the first book tapped into \u00a0this \u00a0popular culture trend of having the latest, updated gadget of something (like, &#8220;oh there&#8217;s a newer broom, there&#8217;s a fancier broom&#8221;) and that this was \u00a0similar to the way people were starting to talk about cellphones, computers, and expansion sets for games. It&#8217;s about consumer culture.<\/p>\n<p>After writing about that, I became known as someone who does <em>Harry Potter<\/em> things, so I would have to &#8220;update&#8221; myself to be able to speak about it, but I wasn&#8217;t an insatiable fan that was always interested in Harry Potter.<\/p>\n<p><strong>*Where I admit that I prepared an interview assuming I&#8217;d be speaking to \u00a0a <em>Harry Potter <\/em>super \u00a0fan.*<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not really a super fan yet there&#8217;s so much in these books to talk about. I think there&#8217;s so much to talk about in terms of what education is, what society is, \u00a0how do young adults learn to be full members of society. So I am a fan in that way. It speaks to all the things I care about.<\/p>\n<p><strong>On coming to appreciate the books:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I did grow to appreciate some things about it as literature. When I first read it, I thought, <em>why are people raving about this?<\/em> All she does is write dialogue. But looking \u00a0back on it, she&#8217;s a pretty creative writer who knows to communicate a lot of things through dialogue. If I were a fiction writer or a playwright, I think I could learn a lot from reading her books.<\/p>\n<p><strong>On how \u00a0<em>Harry Potter \u00a0<\/em>makes a philosophical statement about the best kind of education for a young adult: \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I saw a lot of connections between <em>HP<\/em> \u00a0and what&#8217;s considered the first <em>bildungsroman<\/em>, Goethe&#8217;s <em>Wilhem Meister&#8217;s Apprenticeship. <\/em>[Note: <em>bildungsroman<\/em> is a fancy, German word for a novel about the education and maturation of a young adult protagonist.] Wilhem Meister&#8217;s parents think he&#8217;s doing work \u00a0for a \u00a0business, but actually he&#8217;s running his own theater troupe, nearly dying, and getting into all sorts of risky situations. At the end of the book, he finds out that his father&#8217;s part of this secret society, which was lurking behind the scenes all along making sure he didn&#8217;t die during his adventures, that everything was part of the plan.<\/p>\n<p><em>Harry Potter \u00a0<\/em>is similar: \u00a0Harry, Ron, and Hermione \u00a0are always learning really important things because they&#8217;re out saving the world and they&#8217;re \u00a0aided by people who \u00a0are watching out for them. It seemed like Dumbledore knew maybe in the beginning that things were \u00a0going on and he not only lets them \u00a0happen but enables them\u2014you know, &#8220;oh, Hermione, here&#8217;s this special gadget, we&#8217;ll let you travel through time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It really smacks to me of the whole basis for a lot of so-called progressive education, where you want children to design their own experiences or experiments. Teachers are there just provide support and create an environment that&#8217;s rich for learning. \u00a0School, then, becomes \u00a0a front to make adventures \u00a0happen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>On what the books are \u00a0<em>really \u00a0<\/em>about: \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The books aren&#8217;t about Harry; they&#8217;re really about Snape. I think \u00a0Alan Rickman is to thank for why the Harry Potter books are so great. \u00a0Rickman&#8217;s \u00a0such an amazing actor that he added complexity to Snape as a character which, I believe, led J.K. Rowling to change the character as the series developed.<\/p>\n<p>To me, as an educator, these books make this argument that Snape is the emblematic greatest teacher ever and it fits right into the \u00a0<em>bildungsroman \u00a0<\/em>tradition because so often the super awesome has to sacrifice himself for the student.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll reiterate: the books aren&#8217;t \u00a0not about Harry, but about Snape and how he has set everything up so Harry can do all these things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>On how \u00a0professors of literature react when they find out he&#8217;s a Potter scholar:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A lot of comp lit and English professors these days write about any kind of genre. Maybe there are people that think it&#8217;s not legitimate literature&#8230;but at most \u00a0universities, you&#8217;ll see graphic novels, comic books, blog sites, and even fan fiction being talked about as literature.<\/p>\n<p><strong>*Where I ask the obligatory question: What house would you be in?*<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, I think it&#8217;s sort of obvious given my status as a professor who talks academically about <em>bildungsroman<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>*So you&#8217;d be Ravenclaw?* \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes. What house would you be in?<\/p>\n<p><strong>*Where I admit that I&#8217;d probably be \u00a0Slytherin.*<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, Snape was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>*Slytherin wasn&#8217;t always bad.*<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s funny cause they keep saying, \u00a0<em>not everybody in Slytherin is evil<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>*But then there are no characters they introduce you to that aren&#8217;t.*<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>They do make Gryffindor seem like it&#8217;s the best.<\/p>\n<p><em>Okay, who&#8217;s dying to take Prof. Applebaum&#8217;s class?<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently Skyped with Peter Appelbaum, a professor of curriculum studies at Arcadia University, the father of our very own Noah Appelbaum, the author of a number of books on education, and\u2014drumroll\u2014a prominent figure in   <a class=\"continue-reading\" href=\"#\"><span class=\"continue-text\">continue reading<\/span><svg class=\"continue-icon\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" alt=\"\">\n    <path fill=\"#007acd\" fill-rule=\"nonzero\" d=\"M13.442 5.558L19.885 12l-6.443 6.442-.884-.884 4.934-4.934L4 12.625v-1.25l13.492-.001-4.934-4.932.884-.884z\"><\/path>\n  <\/svg><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":393,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[7],"tags":[124,32,3023],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1385278"}],"collection":[{"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/393"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1385278"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1385278\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1385278"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1385278"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1385278"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}