{"id":1392986,"date":"2016-09-09T11:00:16","date_gmt":"2016-09-09T15:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/community.sparknotes.com\/?p=1392986"},"modified":"2017-02-23T16:48:29","modified_gmt":"2017-02-23T21:48:29","slug":"blogging-the-odyssey-part-2-the-one-where-we-find-out-what-the-hell-even-happened-to-odysseus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/blog\/blogging-the-odyssey-part-2-the-one-where-we-find-out-what-the-hell-even-happened-to-odysseus\/","title":{"rendered":"Blogging <em>The Odyssey<\/em>: Part 2 (The One Where We Find Out What the Hell Even Happened to Odysseus)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/img.sparknotes.com\/content\/sparklife\/sparktalk\/bloggingtheodyssey2sep9_LargeWide.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"701\" height=\"394\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/community.sparknotes.com\/2016\/09\/02\/blogging-the-odyssey-part-1-the-one-where-athena-is-already-fed-up-with-poseidons-crap\" target=\"_blank\">In case you missed it<\/a>, \u00a0I&#8217;m Elodie \u00a0and \u00a0I&#8217;m blogging <em>The Odyssey<\/em>, a book that is very heavy. \u00a0Guys, it&#8217;s so heavy. I have dainty spaghetti arms and no upper arm strength. I am Suffering.<\/p>\n<p>Luckily for <em>you<\/em>, however, you don&#8217;t have to lug this book around; you can leave it in your bedroom, or your locker, or your underground witch dungeon \u00a0(I don&#8217;t know where you keep your books), because I&#8217;ll be summarizing the boring stuff with hilarious quips and recycled memes. Let&#8217;s go!<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOOK 3: King Nestor Remembers<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If Telemachus and Athena \u00a0are ever going to find Odysseus, they&#8217;ll need to do some serious sleuthing. They \u00a0visit King Nestor, who fought alongside \u00a0Odysseus during the Trojan War. Telemachus asks Nestor where Odysseus might be, \u00a0and Nestor begins what will become a trend of people telling us instead where Odysseus is not. He says what amounts to &#8220;Your father is not here, Telemachus. He is also not in any of these other places. Presumably, however, he is somewhere. Maybe the afterlife. He could be dead, I don&#8217;t know.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Nestor tells us about the war. He drops some pretty heavy names, like Achilles, greatest of the Greeks, and Ajax, the other greatest of the Greeks. Kind of seems like they&#8217;ll just let anyone be the greatest of the Greeks, doesn&#8217;t it? He also mentions Diomedes, breaker of horses, which is weird, because we&#8217;re told Nestor is also the breaker of horses.<\/p>\n<p>Sidebar: this is the problem with ancient honor culture. There are only so many epithets you can dish out \u00a0before you have to start recycling old ones. \u00a0It would be like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Harry Potter being \u00a0The Boy Who Lived, but Cormac McLaggen also being The Boy Who Lived<\/li>\n<li>Daenerys Targaryen is \u00a0the Mother of Dragons, but so is \u00a0Petyr Baelish<\/li>\n<li>We&#8217;ve got Katniss, The Girl on Fire. \u00a0There&#8217;s also Peeta, \u00a0the other Girl on Fire<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>But I digress. Anyway, we&#8217;re told that the two brothers who won \u00a0the war, Menelaus and Agamemnon, decided to split \u00a0up after it was over. Menelaus took back his wife (you know her as Helen of Troy), and they got the hell out of Dodge; Agamemnon, however, stayed behind on the shores of Troy to do an extra day of worshipping. Our boy Nestor, breaker of at least a handful of \u00a0horses, \u00a0went with Menelaus; Odysseus remained with Agamemnon.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Okay,&#8221; you might say. &#8220;Now we&#8217;re getting somewhere. So what happened to Agamemnon?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Good question,&#8221; Nestor might respond. &#8220;Allow me to go off on an unrelated tangent \u00a0and we&#8217;ll circle back to this topic in roughly twelve \u00a0hours.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Turns out, Agamemnon is dead. He \u00a0was stabbed by a man \u00a0who seduced his wife and stole his entire kingdom while Agamemnon \u00a0was off fighting in the Trojan War. Agamemnon&#8217;s son later \u00a0killed the \u00a0guy \u00a0in revenge.<\/p>\n<p>Nestor says, &#8220;Are you hearing me, Telemachus? He killed the guy. The guy who stole his dad&#8217;s kingdom. Just straight-up murdered him, with a sword. Now, can we think of anyone else who&#8217;s lost a kingdom? Anyone at all? Anyone who owns a sword?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He <em>really<\/em> wants Telemachus to go back home and kill \u00a0the suitors who are lusting after his mother. Telemachus thinks it over but decides to table the discussion of murder, at least for now. As he&#8217;s leaving, Nestor&#8217;s daughter oils him \u00a0down and slaps a gold cape on him for good measure. \u00a0This seems really forward, at least to me, but maybe this is why I can&#8217;t get a date.<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOOK 4: The King and Queen of Sparta<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Telemachus and Athena travel to \u00a0Sparta to speak with Menelaus, who was the last one to see Odysseus and his crew alive. They&#8217;re oiled down again, \u00a0because sure.<\/p>\n<p>When they \u00a0arrive, it&#8217;s to see that Menelaus and Helen are celebrating the marriages of their son and daughter. I know what you&#8217;re thinking, but it&#8217;s definitely different marriages to different \u00a0people and NOT \u00a0to each other. I&#8217;m pretty \u00a0sure about this. I&#8217;ve now re-read the passage several times specifically for this purpose.<\/p>\n<p>Menelaus proceeds to talk our collective ears off with his personal anecdotes. \u00a0I see now why Helen originally left him to be with Paris, and it&#8217;s not just because Paris was young and hot and Menelaus is old and dusty. His stories \u00a0are \u00a0<em>How I Met Your Mother<\/em> levels of excessive and long-winded\u2014basically it&#8217;s \u00a0<em>How I Got Salty Because Your Mother Left Me So I Started \u00a0the Trojan War.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/img.sparknotes.com\/content\/sparklife\/sparktalk\/sep9bloggingtheodyssey2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"701\" height=\"311\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Example: there&#8217;s this whole thing \u00a0where Menelaus was shipwrecked on an island and had to trick one of the sea gods, Proteus, into helping him escape, even though Proteus could turn \u00a0into a leopard and also a tree. We&#8217;re just going to skip that part entirely, because I care about you guys. You&#8217;re welcome.<\/p>\n<p>Menelaus tells us \u00a0that \u00a0many, many heroes (like, a ridiculous amount of them) \u00a0died during the war\u2014like Hector, yet another breaker of horses, as well as Achilles and his boyfriend Patroclus. But a lot of important deaths actually happened in the aftermath of the war, too. Agamemnon, for instance. Also \u00a0Ajax, who made it home but said \u00a0&#8220;TAKE THAT, GODS&#8221; like an idiot, at which point \u00a0Poseidon had him soundly murdered for his hubris.<\/p>\n<p>Odysseus, however? <em>Not<\/em> one of those guys. Menelaus tells us that the last he heard of Odysseus, he&#8217;d been kidnapped by the nymph, Calypso, on a desert island and was presumably still there to this day. I have no idea why he&#8217;s been sitting on this information for ten years, but probably I just need to stop asking stupid questions.<\/p>\n<p>With that, Telemachus has what he came for: the knowledge that Odysseus is still alive. Now he can tell all those sex-crazed interlopers currently courting his mother to GTFO.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, back in Ithaca, the aforementioned sex-crazed interlopers have realized Telemachus is gone. It&#8217;s weird, because someone saw him leaving with Mentor a few days ago, only someone <em>else<\/em> saw Mentor just yesterday! Almost like the first guy \u00a0<em>wasn&#8217;t<\/em> Mentor! Almost like it was a goddess running around in a Mentor man-suit! \u00a0Since they now know Telemachus has a goddess on his side, you&#8217;d think the suitors would \u00a0take the hint and not murder him, lest they meet a horrible, gods-related end \u00a0like Ajax or Achilles or any number of other well-oiled Greek men. Alas, they do not take the hint. Instead, they sit around plotting to kill him the second his boat hits the shore.<\/p>\n<p>Penelope learns that Telemachus has left home, and she panics. She&#8217;s already lost her husband, and now her son will probably die at sea as well. Athena comes to her in some bonkers hallucination and tells her not to worry; Telemachus will \u00a0be fine, probably. Penelope asks if the goddess can tell her anything about \u00a0Odysseus, but Athena says, &#8220;No spoilers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Discussion questions:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>It&#8217;s been ten whole years since anyone&#8217;s \u00a0seen Odysseus, and they&#8217;re all still like, &#8220;ODYSSEUS? BEST MAN I EVER KNEW.&#8221; Is this realistic? For comparisons&#8217; sake, there are people I haven&#8217;t seen in \u00a0three \u00a0months whose faces I \u00a0can barely remember and who are, essentially, dead to me.<\/li>\n<li>Discuss \u00a0the theme of revenge.<\/li>\n<li>What would be your epithet? Mine would be Elodie the Great, or maybe Elodie the Valkyrie, although if we&#8217;ve learned anything it&#8217;s that the guy who break-dances for nickels at the bus stop is probably already Stan the Valkyrie.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><small>Image credit: CBS.<\/small><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Looking for the rest of our Blogging the Classics series? <a href=\"http:\/\/community.sparknotes.com\/2016\/07\/18\/blogging-the-classics-index-page\" target=\"_blank\">Check it out here!<\/a> \u00a0For all of Blogging The Odyssey, <a href=\"http:\/\/community.sparknotes.com\/index.php\/2016\/12\/31\/blogging-the-odyssey\/\">click here<\/a>!<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In case you missed it, \u00a0I&#8217;m Elodie \u00a0and \u00a0I&#8217;m blogging The Odyssey, a book that is very heavy. \u00a0Guys, it&#8217;s so heavy. I have dainty spaghetti arms and no upper arm strength. 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